(;CA[utf-8]RU[AGA]OT[10x60 byo-yomi]GM[1]FF[4]C[zchen [8d\]\: Hi
Bliztsuck [9d\]\: hey
eastwood1 [10k\]\: wie geil
mcw85 [7k\]\: Why is the 8d white?
Bliztsuck [9d\]\: enjoy the game
]
AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]ST[2]GN[2nd US-Canada Team Tournament, Game 13]EV[The Second US-Canada Team Go Tournament]
DT[2009-07-25]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]PB[Juyong Koh]PW[Michael Chen]
WR[8d]KM[7.5]TM[3600]RE[B+3.50]SO[http\://www.bostongo.org/2nd_Canada.htm]MULTIGOGM[1]
;B[pd]BL[3582.86]C[MssrBlanc [3k\]\: you're doing that on purpose, right mcw85?
mcw85 [7k\]\: Mmmaybe. o_O
MssrBlanc [3k\]\: it alternates between US white, Canada Black, regardless of rank. 
Bliztsuck [9d\]\: 구벅
zchen [8d\]\: enjoy, have fun
mcw85 [7k\]\: Ahh, I didn't know that. I thought they just nigiri'd.
Bliztsuck [9d\]\: thanks
Hello [3k\]\: what tournament is this?
mcw85 [7k\]\: USA versus Canada.
Kumin [9k\]\: USA vs Canade
Kumin [9k\]\: Canada
kelu [2d?\]\: 2nd USA vs Canada team tournament
]
;W[dp]WL[3511.97];B[qp]BL[3565.83]C[Hello [-\]\: oo, who's okaying for the usa?
mcw85 [7k\]\: The Second Annual USA versus Canada Team Super Go Tournament.
]
;W[dc]WL[3501.01]C[Onmyoji [2d\]\: why is the 8d white?
];B[de]BL[3555.14]C[Hello [-\]\: playing*
xDragon [16k\]\: can you read onmyoji?
mcw85 [7k\]\: Zchen is USA.
xDragon [16k\]\: they explained it literally right above your line
MssrBlanc [3k\]\: No, it's typical for team tournaments to do that alternating pattern, I think. 
]
;W[ce]WL[3480.27];B[cf]BL[3551.46]C[mafutrct [-\]\: if this question is repeated once more i'd request autoban
mafutrct [-\]\: ^_^
]
;W[cd]WL[3472.53]C[xDragon [16k\]\: yes please
Choukos [5k\]\: Why is the 8d wh.... ?
Choukos [5k\]\: \:)
DragonXiao [7k\]\: f3
mcw85 [7k\]\: The question must be asked at least five times pergame.
Kumin [9k\]\: ... ite
DragonXiao [7k\]\: black f3
Onmyoji [2d\]\: what tournament is this?
Sbetsho [8k\]\: resign
Lion [1d\]\: F3
xDragon [16k\]\: doesnt b have to fix
DragonXiao [7k\]\: f3 standard prope
DragonXiao [7k\]\: probe*
mcw85 [7k\]\: B can tenuki.
elahrairah [1k\]\: Some strange tournament for sure, where a 8d gets white against a 9d...
Onmyoji [2d\]\: yes
DragonXiao [7k\]\: if white cuts black gets a double kakari
DragonXiao [7k\]\: bad for white
]
;B[nq]BL[3489.23]C[Onmyoji [2d\]\: i dont understand why 
Onmyoji [2d\]\: w 8d
mcw85 [7k\]\: If white cuts black must nobi.
]
;W[qj]WL[3460.24]C[Javaness [2d\]\: black is strong like squirrel
xDragon [16k\]\: ban onmyoji please
holynec [?\]\: white strong like rock
Kumin [9k\]\: squirrel are damn strong !
DragonXiao [7k\]\: he doesn't have to
Breaker [2k?\]\: w is 7d 
DragonXiao [7k\]\: double kakari
Breaker [2k?\]\: ..
Dmajor7106 [3k\]\: I lost 3 stones just reading this kibitz
troton\: no
mcw85 [7k\]\: Onmyoji\: It alternates white and black between USA and Canada.
Breaker [2k?\]\: lol troton
]
;B[fq]BL[3430.99]C[xDragon [16k\]\: it would help if you kick the stupid people first whio keep asking qustions that have been answered 10 times.
DragonXiao [7k\]\: see?
Choukos [5k\]\: is it alright to just let D14 open ?
xDragon [16k\]\: that would be ironic if i did get kicked right about now
DragonXiao [7k\]\: f4
Uberdude [4d?\]\: f3 seems low with o3 now
DragonXiao [7k\]\: f3*
xDragon [16k\]\: so ill stop
]
;W[cn]WL[3446.95];B[df]BL[3429.05]C[mgoetze [1d\]\: i considered it, xdragon
DragonXiao [7k\]\: now finish joseki
]
;W[fc]WL[3442.8]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]\: hooray!
];B[dj]BL[3427.07]C[xDragon [16k\]\: xiao, you said that about 3 moves later
Warfreak2 [5d\]\: they played a joseki i know!
xDragon [16k\]\: then it played
mcw85 [7k\]\: Pretty sure joseki is nobi if white cuts.
mafutrct [-\]\: uber, isn't f3 still good since black can play, say, j4?
DragonXiao [7k\]\: 3 moves later?
Uberdude [4d?\]\: eh d14 is nor normal
DragonXiao [7k\]\: i said it quite a while a go
]
;W[qf]WL[3415.63]C[Uberdude [4d?\]\: with c6 normal is d13 f17 c9 
Onmyoji [2d\]\: it this joseki
]
;B[nc]BL[3417.9]C[Onmyoji [2d\]\: wat
xDragon [16k\]\: yea, it was an obvious move to happen
DragonXiao [7k\]\: common strategy against the orthodox opening
KillerMonk [4d\]\: Go Canada !
]
;W[qm]WL[3402.79];B[dr]BL[3405.99]C[mcw85 [7k\]\: Peaceful game.
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: who's bliztscuk?
Breaker [2k?\]\: he suk
KillerMonk [4d\]\: Black is Juyong Koh
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: i don't know him
KillerMonk [4d\]\: from Canada 
Breaker [2k?\]\: \:D
]
;W[cq]WL[3371.74]C[mcw85 [7k\]\: Koh, Juyong 	646
];B[cl]BL[3402.89]C[Breaker [2k?\]\: he is goo
Breaker [2k?\]\: good
]
;W[cr]WL[3356.92]C[ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: michael has to beat him up
mafutrct [-\]\: if w h3 b probably e4 
Q161 [13k?\]\: if zchen loses is it over for USA?
mgoetze [1d\]\: breaker, could you please try to make more sense in less lines? that goes for some other people, too
]
;B[iq]BL[3379.94]C[KillerMonk [4d\]\: Canada has 4 very good players coming up, and the US as well so these next few games will be very exciting 
DragonXiao [7k\]\: like me, haha
Onmyoji [2d\]\: i didnt knw canada has 9d
DragonXiao [7k\]\: my typing skills are not up to par
mcw85 [7k\]\: No, q, still 3 USA players.
WeimStyle [2d\]\: Go USA!
xDragon [16k\]\: hes probably not a canadian 9d
Q161 [13k?\]\: coo
Q161 [13k?\]\: but bbw is out \:(
Nemu91 [4k?\]\: is it a tournament???
Blue1\: ^^
DragonXiao [7k\]\: explanation for why i just got booted?
Lotus [1k\]\: k16 or K4?
KillerMonk [4d\]\: There is no rank above 7 dan in the Canadian ranking 
xDragon [16k\]\: admins are powerhungry
Onmyoji [2d\]\: i guess they play for fun cuz the weaker is white
mgoetze [1d\]\: definitely not in the game chat, dragonxiao
xDragon [16k\]\: lets leave it at that
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: ask an admin, DX
]
;W[rd]WL[3272.15]C[xDragon [16k\]\: gj, kick me for telling the truth
DragonXiao [7k\]\: i would, if i knew which one kickedme,oh well
Uberdude [4d?\]\: this seems a little good for b locally
DragonXiao [7k\]\: backtothe game,iguess
Uberdude [4d?\]\: thought he did spend extra move
]
;B[qc]BL[3361.03];W[ph]WL[3266.95]C[Uberdude [4d?\]\: cf d13 f17 c9 d2 j3 
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: i don't mind white
flyer [6d\]\: w is a little slow
Onmyoji [2d\]\: yes b has more time
Uberdude [4d?\]\: w would normally have c2
Uberdude [4d?\]\: and a bigger corner
WeimStyle [2d\]\: Caution! slow dans at play!
Uberdude [4d?\]\: err d2
Uberdude [4d?\]\: but b spent extra move at left side
Uberdude [4d?\]\: so w got really nice right side now
elahrairah [1k\]\: Next move will be violent !
Breaker [2k?\]\: not realy
mcw85 [7k\]\: K16, keep the peace.
Uberdude [4d?\]\: this game is really boring now
mafutrct [-\]\: white has good endgame, too, i think, so i guess its still even?
Uberdude [4d?\]\: i don't know what to do
]
;B[dd]BL[3249.14]C[telchar [1d\]\: moar blood please !!
Uberdude [4d?\]\: L17?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: k17ish
Jep [9k\]\: M4
mafutrct [-\]\: how about l3?
Uberdude [4d?\]\: mafutrcut, i tihnk  both w and b have change to get e3/e2
DragonXiao [7k\]\: blackdeveloping on larger scale so far
]
;W[ed]WL[3220.46];B[cc]BL[3241.6];W[bc]WL[3216.34];B[cb]BL[3240.89];W[bb]WL[3214.46]
;B[bf]BL[3239.73]C[mafutrct [-\]\: uber, i see
];W[db]WL[3206.13];B[kc]BL[3236.71]
C[Uberdude [4d?\]\: L17 =)
Uberdude [4d?\]\: good and boring
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: that was nice for B
mcw85 [7k\]\: K4?
DragonXiao [7k\]\: black'sadvantage is clear, i think
]
;W[kq]WL[3171.73]C[ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: prope lower right maybe
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: or just come in
Fujiwaka [-\]\: !
mafutrct [-\]\: i dont see much of an advantage^^
Fujisuke [2d\]\: pas mal
Fujiwaka [-\]\: oO
telchar [1d\]\: c'est vraiment pépère jusque là
Fujisuke [2d\]\: oui
Fujisuke [2d\]\: ^^
Sheeple [3k\]\: b so low, and still this deep?
DickCheney [1k\]\: go zchen! red white and blue !
mcw85 [7k\]\: I would play that, so I thought it was bad. ^^
mafutrct [-\]\: l3 seems very natural to me
Fujisuke [2d\]\: blue white red !!!!
Uberdude [4d?\]\: what else you gonna do?
Fujiwaka [-\]\: we want blood
DickCheney [1k\]\: thats some french stuff
Fujisuke [2d\]\: yeah a great battle
Uberdude [4d?\]\: i suppose w migtht no smeothnng to r4
Uberdude [4d?\]\: as r7 is storng is nice to steal the cornrer
DragonXiao [7k\]\: is q4 a useful probe anytime soon?
Uberdude [4d?\]\: no
Uberdude [4d?\]\: loses too much
]
;B[pn]BL[3128.74]C[fortheroad [4d\]\: l3 seems logical as w played c2 and is solid everywhere
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: now this is an interesting idea
]
;W[qq]WL[3138.6]C[kralj [4k\]\: now  preparng  for  battle
mafutrct [-\]\: how will black continue if w does not answer to q6?
Fujiwaka [-\]\: \: )
Fujisuke [2d\]\: a ! 
Fujisuke [2d\]\: ça rentre bien là
Onmyoji [2d\]\: r3 
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: this is getting kinda nuts
telchar [1d\]\: bon espérons que ça fighte enfin un peu
Fujiwaka [2d?\]\: arrête de me copier toi
Fujisuke [2d\]\: oui j'avoue 
mafutrct [-\]\: don, w is just probing \:)
mgoetze [1d\]\: does that count as an answer to q6? \:)
Fujisuke [2d\]\: ^^
Fujiwaka [2d?\]\: ^^
Fujisuke [2d\]\: lol
WeimStyle [2d\]\: just a probe
xio [7k\]\: Onmyoji is good at guessing moves \:)
]
;B[pq]BL[3075.09]C[charkysan [6k\]\: bliztsuck is koh, i think
mgoetze [1d\]\: fujisuke and fujiwaka, don't flood, please
Fujiwaka [-\]\: joke
Onmyoji [2d\]\: klol
WeimStyle [2d\]\: w has to play r3 now, because he plans on making fight that would make r3 useless later
Fujisuke [2d\]\: genre on flood pas -_-
]
;W[rp]WL[3097.45]C[Fujisuke [2d\]\: serieux le mec il dit ça parce qu'on parle pas anglais 
]
;B[rq]BL[3068.64]C[telchar [1d\]\: allons ne soyez pas si dissipés
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: extend...
]
;W[qr]WL[3063.43]C[telchar [1d\]\: this game needs more cuts and more weak groups
]
;B[rr]BL[3061.99]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: s5
Breaker [2k?\]\: lol
Sheeple [3k\]\: coming up
MRW\: aren't there bigger points on the board right now?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: cut...
kevinwm [3k\]\: why didn't b s5?
]
;W[hr]WL[3047.83]C[KillerMonk [4d\]\: hmm this seems a little abusive on whites part... 
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: oh this
fortheroad [4d\]\: if s5 w surrounds o3 stone
]
;B[ir]BL[3021.12]C[ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: white has a lot of ideas going on at once
Sheeple [3k\]\: or one big plan
Fujiwaka [-\]\: L3 have no chance
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: i'm unsure if that makes sense
telchar [1d\]\: il essaie d'impressionner le public. ça ne prend pas
Fujiwaka [-\]\: qui zchen ?
Seb [-\]\: un peu quand meme
moha [2d\]\: w's ideas dont seem to work out well
telchar [1d\]\: à fond
Fujiwaka [-\]\: ^^
kevinwm [3k\]\: w trying to win by having the most groups
kevinwm [3k\]\: now up to 6 groups
telchar [1d\]\: more groups = more points
kevinwm [3k\]\: exactly
Uberdude [4d?\]\: h3 h4 j4 g3 h5 g4 k3 is w plan
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: three of whites groups are rock solid
kevinwm [3k\]\: the other three are dead
Fujiwaka [-\]\: H3 , j4 so
guiguistar [2d\]\: i like zchen playstle
kevinwm [3k\]\: not h3 h4?
guiguistar [2d\]\: always trying  the more complicated stuff ^^
mafutrct [-\]\: w g3?
Fujiwaka [-\]\: no ^^
telchar [1d\]\: il compulse fébrilement son bouquin de josekis
kevinwm [3k\]\: w f2
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: e3 is normaly, but normally without c2... o think it's bad here
mafutrct [-\]\: with c2, e3 makes no sense at all, i think
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: agree
kevinwm [3k\]\: h3 then f2?
kevinwm [3k\]\: H1 then L0
Breaker [2k?\]\: h4..
Uberdude [4d?\]\: yes, b can answer h3 at j4 to resist w's kikashi
Fujiwaka [-\]\: yea
kevinwm [3k\]\: I like the word "kikashi". It kicks ... ashi.
Wuschelein [-\]\: ...
kevinwm [3k\]\: What is a kikashi anyway?
Wuschelein [-\]\: forcing move
gisel [2d\]\: maybe w just play j4, and try to sacrifice h2?
Uberdude [4d?\]\: beneficial forcing move
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: forcing move
]
;W[fr]WL[2734.68]C[Fujiwaka [-\]\: pff
Onmyoji [2d\]\: PLZ MOVE ALREADY
kevinwm [3k\]\: f2, tyvm!
Onmyoji [2d\]\: im falling asleep
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: have some patience
telchar [1d\]\: "kikashi, c'est comme drogue"
fortheroad [4d\]\: patience is a virgin
Fujiwaka [-\]\: H3 and go attack L3
Ripples [8k\]\: they dont play for your entertainment
Ripples [8k\]\: you realize that?
kevinwm [3k\]\: If you're not patient, don't watch a 1 hour game with 10 1 minute by
kevinwm [3k\]\: s
mcw85 [7k\]\: Do they play for mine?
Ripples [8k\]\: maybe
Onmyoji [2d\]\: high dans exists for our entertainment
KillerMonk [4d\]\: since everything is settled, the play here will probably decide the game 
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: you forget, they are just normal people outside of go
fortheroad [4d\]\: well f3 and d2 are certainly light now so what should b do\\?
kevinwm [3k\]\: Except zchen. He likes to sleep in the hall.
Uberdude [4d?\]\: k5 !
Oloril [1k\]\: well, pros wouldn't make any money if no one was entertained by watching go, so no one would put in the time and effort to become pro, so this level of dan probably has no place in the world other than entertainment
kevinwm [3k\]\: e2, I think
kevinwm [3k\]\: then g3
drau [7k\]\: e2 
Uberdude [4d?\]\: or maybe h3 i am thinking, but perhap slo
Fujiwaka [-\]\: b should  k4
flyer [6d\]\: question move for w
]
;B[gq]BL[2857.47]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: g2 now, yes?
drau [7k\]\: oh shape
telchar [1d\]\: il laisse filer le blanc, et l'enjeu c'est l'attaque de l3
Fujiwaka [-\]\: oui
Onmyoji [2d\]\: le noir
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]\: i feel, help l3
]
;W[er]WL[2639.77]C[flyer [6d\]\: W will spend one move and get very little
Fujiwaka [-\]\: oO
kevinwm [3k\]\: Why is e2 better than g2?
Fujiwaka [-\]\: this seem bad to me
Fujisuke [2d\]\: trés finement jouer \:)
kevinwm [3k\]\: I think g2 still captures d2, and threatens h3
gen123 [7k\]\: it's sente.
jSd [8k\]\: lololololololololl
telchar [1d\]\: sur kgs la plupart des parties est très caféinée, mais là il ont du plutot prendre une tisane
kevinwm [3k\]\: or at least connects
telchar [1d\]\: reveillez les
Onmyoji [2d\]\: ololol
]
;B[jo]BL[2809.02]C[flyer [6d\]\: because E2 leave the choice to do H3 in the future
Fujiwaka [-\]\: lol telchar
]
;W[pp]WL[2630.2];B[qo]BL[2805.51];W[oq]WL[2627.37]C[Fujisuke [2d\]\: qui plus est, il n'y a pas souvent de partie lente 
kevinwm [3k\]\: This has to be bad for w....
Uberdude [4d?\]\: w has a plan
fortheroad [4d\]\: o4
Fujisuke [2d\]\: entre joueur de haut niveau 
kevinwm [3k\]\: o2?
fortheroad [4d\]\: hmm
Farouche [-\]\: W looks wasted on his picture
fortheroad [4d\]\: ok q2
Breaker [2k?\]\: o4
flyer [6d\]\: W play pretty bad in this fight
Uberdude [4d?\]\: w is wasted on that picture
muziGOloji [11k\]\: p4
Uberdude [4d?\]\: his stunningly handsome looks deserve profesional photogrpahy
flyer [6d\]\: B can now O4
Breaker [2k?\]\: w aswers?
]
;B[pr]BL[2718.3]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: o2?
];W[or]WL[2623.69]C[Javaness [2d\]\: I prefer white i must say
]
;B[qs]BL[2716.56];W[np]WL[2614.68]C[flyer [6d\]\: bad move for B now
Fujiwaka [-\]\: o1
katsumi [-\]\: too bad neither of these players is as powerful as flyer
Fujiwaka [-\]\: hu o2
kevinwm [3k\]\: i was wondering....
katsumi [-\]\: probably the best player in the universe
Breaker [2k?\]\: o2
kevinwm [3k\]\: n3 fisrt though
Sarcasm [?\]\: lol
flyer [6d\]\: Q2 is bad
Breaker [2k?\]\: kk
kevinwm [3k\]\: h17
Breaker [2k?\]\: lol
CBlue [1k\]\: Q7?
Wuschelein [-\]\: tenuki now oO
Breaker [2k?\]\: go
Breaker [2k?\]\: tenuki
telchar [1d\]\: j'aurais joué noir O4 aussi, alors est ce vraiment bon..
Breaker [2k?\]\: ^^ ^^
Wuschelein [-\]\: btw moin timo \:P
Breaker [2k?\]\: o2
KillerMonk [4d\]\: o2 would take away the base 
CBlue [1k\]\: lol moin frank
flyer [6d\]\: kevinwm and kevinwm, please be respectly. thanks.
CBlue [1k\]\: wieder aktiv?^^
katsumi [-\]\: LOL
]
;B[nr]BL[2579.67]C[Wuschelein [-\]\: more or less
Fujiwaka [-\]\: héhé
mgoetze [1d\]\: koennt ihr bitte den privatchat im privaten austragen? danke
kevinwm [3k\]\: ? whatd I say?
Breaker [2k?\]\: u sayd h17
bloodninja [5d\]\: i am glad that flyer is so respectly all the time
Bouryoku [3d?\]\: When I grow up, I want to be just as amazing as flyer
fortheroad [4d\]\: o4 before seems troublesome cuz of w s5 no?
flyer [6d\]\: where comes so many ducks?
Javaness [2d\]\: was juyong koh an insei?
Uberdude [4d?\]\: fortheroad, are you reading?
kevinwm [3k\]\: quack.
Uberdude [4d?\]\: that's cheating!
charkysan [6k\]\: it's said the mao's warfare during the civil war resembled go tactics while shang's resembled chess
bloodninja [5d\]\: aflac
adhitthana [1d\]\: is he w?
fortheroad [4d\]\: ah yes, 
katsumi [-\]\: there's only one duck here
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: shang?
kevinwm [3k\]\: Komi no itte
telchar [1d\]\: koh il a un nom prédestiné
Onmyoji [2d\]\: who i s duck?
CBlue [1k\]\: M4?^^
DnFBlitz [1k\]\: it seems very easy for b if w doesn't play P1
HappyDuck [11k?\]\: I'm a duck
adhitthana [1d\]\: whoc is b?
Onmyoji [2d\]\: ^______^
bloodninja [5d\]\: so what do people think about the shape involving P2, P3, O4 and Q4?
drau [7k\]\: o1 ?
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: i think it looks like a Y
DnFBlitz [1k\]\: drau, O1 has the problem that B can play P1 -- if Q1 then N1
KillerMonk [4d\]\: is white plays p1 , what will happen when b plays n4
kevinwm [3k\]\: Tough to keep chat on game with slow moves.... filler conversation. But can someone answer my q from before? why is e2 better than g2 for w?
Bouryoku [3d?\]\: I believe white successfully turns the body around
Wuschelein [-\]\: blood\: doesnt look pretty for me 
CBlue [1k\]\: m4 or n4
xio [7k\]\: Y the last man
Uberdude [4d?\]\: kevin, someone already did
drau [7k\]\: indeed thx
fgfdd\: who is mgoetze
DangoMango [5k\]\: y is the weaker person playing as white?
kevinwm [3k\]\: They said "sente", to which i respondewd....
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: this is USA vs Canada
kevinwm [3k\]\: except it wasn't sente because b tenuki'ed
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: all even
hamburger\: Go USA
CBlue [1k\]\: hmm, or just o6? oO difficult
nelad10k\: ils sont partis pisser
Fujiwaka [-\]\: w have no solution
Javaness [2d\]\: will white tobi out?
flyer [6d\]\: B N3
DangoMango [5k\]\: is this live?
kevinwm [3k\]\: w should tenuki
kevinwm [3k\]\: I like j17
flyer [6d\]\: W N3
harlej9 [2k\]\: but after n4 b has a sente p1...
Breaker [2k?\]\: shut up kevin
Uberdude [4d?\]\: well, for starters e2 captures d2
nelad10k\: ils sont partis pisser?
telchar [1d\]\: strange shape for darkmage
kevinwm [3k\]\: p1 isn't sente
mgoetze [1d\]\: tenuki looks very dangerous
KillerMonk [4d\]\: Kevinwm\: g2 is gote and e2 allows for the future push of h3
Atomizerrr\: blits is awesome
Fujiwaka [-\]\: N3 ? then w P1  
]
;W[mq]WL[2323.27]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: moves are worth about 10 pts each right now.
tildebis [?\]\: tennuki is  impossible
flyer [6d\]\: If we know P2 and P3 is light, things will be easy
telchar [1d\]\: bien vu
Uberdude [4d?\]\: p1 is connecting on 1st line
Atomizerrr\: i dunno why 3k player is talking about tenuki i think he is a stupydy joker
]
;B[os]BL[2560.11];W[op]WL[2320.16]C[CBlue [1k\]\: >_>
Wuschelein [-\]\: p1 and cut now?
Fujiwaka [-\]\: hum
harlej9 [2k\]\: n4?
flyer [6d\]\: shouldn't connect
CBlue [1k\]\: isnt w in the hell of cuts now?
Hometet [10k\]\: .
Eusebius [?\]\: bloodninja\: after o2 (which I didn't expect), I am not so sure the white stones here wont become a burden ... 
kevinwm [3k\]\: agreed
coolbabe [6d\]\: n5
Fujiwaka [-\]\: connect is bad
mgoetze [1d\]\: no need for ad hominem arguments, atomizerrr
DnFBlitz [1k\]\: with connect i don't see why he played N3
kevinwm [3k\]\: h17 / j17 bigger than any of this
coolbabe [6d\]\: kill
Hometet [10k\]\: n4?
DnFBlitz [1k\]\: what is the use of N3 now?
telchar [1d\]\: il est pas un peu lourd après la coupe ?
CBlue [1k\]\: or hell of peeps
adhitthana [1d\]\: n5
coolbabe [6d\]\: n5
CBlue [1k\]\: n5
kevinwm [3k\]\: yes n4
telchar [1d\]\: bon j'ai pas envie de lire et il est tard
kevinwm [3k\]\: or ... n5
Farouche [-\]\: I'd rather N5 but well
CBlue [1k\]\: n4 m5 not good enough
Uberdude [4d?\]\: or o6 to gobble all =)
Javaness [2d\]\: O6 for me
Hometet [10k\]\: m4 so
Hometet [10k\]\: KKK
fortheroad [4d\]\: not healthy looking 
Onmyoji [2d\]\: game over
tildebis [?\]\: n5 might make J3 etc very weak
CBlue [1k\]\: imho n5 better than o6 because b still has q7 \:-o
mcw85 [7k\]\: Go Zchen!
tildebis [?\]\: n4*
flyer [6d\]\: M5 instead of connect
Elscouta [2k\]\: don't be greedy. just n4
kevinwm [3k\]\: n3 fine
Farouche [-\]\: yes definitely
Beans4\: kevin are u idiot?
Breaker [2k?\]\: go blits!
kevinwm [3k\]\: for some reason I saw j3 there. j3 is fine
tildebis [?\]\: if n4 then J3 very weak
vargunge [10k\]\: is that pic zchen? o.o
Breaker [2k?\]\: no
Breaker [2k?\]\: is a ilusion
KillerMonk [4d\]\: if n4 for black white will force then counterattack on the left black group after sacrificing the p4 group 
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: whats the overall team score now?
flyer [6d\]\: B can't cut though, should do M5 or something like that
telchar [1d\]\: it's liv tyler
CBlue [1k\]\: maybe q7 first actually?
kevinwm [3k\]\: Yes - mistyped. j3 fine, responding to tildebis
Caim [11k\]\: 4 on each side aphelion
tildebis [?\]\: yes killermonk, thx
mafutrct [-\]\: n4 l5 ?
SergeyASh [13k\]\: w has conceived something artful with p3 ?
kevinwm [3k\]\: And Beans4 - you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality code.
flyer [6d\]\: B m5, then the whole W group is very heavy
Farouche [-\]\: Don't know if the counterattack would be all that fructuous though
plusguy [-\]\: Yilun Yang VS bigbadwolf at the stop of active games tab !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kevinwm [3k\]\: fructuous?
Breaker [2k?\]\: hm m5 is goud
Onmyoji [2d\]\: omggggggggg
plusguy [-\]\: top*
plusguy [-\]\: \:p
CBlue [1k\]\: maybe just L6?
Q161 [13k?\]\: w00t!
]
;B[mp]BL[2349.3];W[mr]WL[2315.7];B[ns]BL[2347.47]C[flyer [6d\]\: bad for B now
CBlue [1k\]\: since b is somewhat thin there
flyer [6d\]\: W L5
Sbetsho [8k\]\: mass-migration to the bbw game
]
;W[mo]WL[2268.07];B[lp]BL[2344.7]C[Yaruki [10k\]\: bbw is playing pro if people didnt see =P
KillerMonk [4d\]\: Black decides to take the lead in territory and  try to settle his j3 group
]
;W[kp]WL[2266.35]C[RainierBob [1k?\]\: Thx for info plusguy
];B[lo]BL[2344.03];W[ko]
WL[2265.11];B[ln]BL[2343.18]C[flyer [6d\]\: both side made a lot mistake in this area
wannagame\: i would have tried n5 as black instaed of n4 
CBlue [1k\]\: omg yilun yang vs bbw!?
]
;W[kn]WL[2255.86]C[coolbabe [6d\]\: w huge sucess
CBlue [1k\]\: thanks for telling^^
]
;B[lm]BL[2337.95]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: yes
kevinwm [3k\]\: now j3 weak
Tasky [4k\]\: driving tesuji
Lior [1d?\]\: 7P vs 9D
Javaness [2d\]\: seems hard to eat J3
Lior [1d?\]\: come
Lior [1d?\]\: all
]
;W[ho]WL[2231.33]C[flyer [6d\]\: now the game is good for W
coolbabe [6d\]\: n5 high dan
coolbabe [6d\]\: n4 lower
CBlue [1k\]\: oh grats to 6d coolbabe^^
coolbabe [6d\]\: hoho
tigergong [?\]\: which room for bbw and yang?
coolbabe [6d\]\: will drop soon
CBlue [1k\]\: pfft
Yaruki [10k\]\: enclave
Q161 [13k?\]\: enclave tigergong
Yaruki [10k\]\: should be on top of list of active games
KillerMonk [4d\]\: black can get som eye spce by forcing at l2 hen taking a white stone at g2
Yaruki [10k\]\: The Enclave
flyer [6d\]\: the reason that I choose L5 instead of  N5 is that, B don't need to answer M7
CBlue [1k\]\: cugel is keeping 6d too, so you can too =-)
]
;B[gr]BL[2214.09]C[henhen [7k\]\: 7 pro vs bigbadwolf
kevinwm [3k\]\: yes - good one
]
;W[km]WL[2198.76]C[tigergong [?\]\: thanks
];B[kr]BL[2188.44];W[lq]WL[2098.78]C[telchar [1d\]\: le pauvres on leur a pique leur public
]
;B[ll]BL[2150.04]C[Fujisuke [2d\]\:   ^^
Fujisuke [2d\]\: ça évolue dure pour blanc ici
xianwu [3k\]\: hi
nelad10k\: j7
mcw85 [7k\]\: Can this get worse for W?
nelad10k\: à noir de souffrir now
Oloril [1k\]\: sure, I could take over and it'd get very bad for white
]
;W[kl]WL[1952.68]C[moha [2d\]\: the question is, can w get anything out of the attack on the bottom
Oloril [1k\]\: I am very proficient in the art of no living groups
Fujisuke [2d\]\: j7 c'est trop je crois 
Fujisuke [2d\]\: tot 
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: j3 is already alive right?
]
;B[lk]BL[2098.72]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: yes two eyes
kevinwm [3k\]\: unless there's some trick I'm missing
]
;W[di]WL[1917.99]C[Elscouta [2k\]\: i don't see two  eyes
kevinwm [3k\]\: if w g1, b h3 h1 j1 f1 e3 captures
lior6 [?\]\: N1
Jep [9k\]\: Where is 2 black eyes?
kevinwm [3k\]\: one eye at h2, one at k2 or k1
lior6 [?\]\: K3
Thmayu [3d\]\: it's alive
Fujisuke [2d\]\: yes its alive
kevinwm [3k\]\: cloning in kgs teaching
Elscouta [2k\]\: k3 k2 h1 g1 n1 q1 l1 
kevinwm [3k\]\: k3 k2 h1 n1 alive
telchar [1d\]\: les 9 dan ca ose tout, c'est meme a ca qu'on les reconnait
kevinwm [3k\]\: rr. not quite.
lior6 [?\]\: E11
nelad10k\: mdr
Fujisuke [2d\]\: beh il ont des raisons de jouer ce genre de coups \:) 
Elscouta [2k\]\: n1 is w sente anyway
]
;B[ci]BL[1992.29]C[SergeyASh [13k\]\: b ready not only make two eyes, but start to f5 ?
kevinwm [3k\]\: reviewing in kgs teaching
Thmayu [3d\]\: q7 seems huge
flyer [6d\]\: W want to do some prepare to kill B
kevinwm [3k\]\: but b either gets eye aroudn k1/k2 or takes e2
flyer [6d\]\: B answered weakly
Elscouta [2k\]\: i think it's life or run miai
lior6 [?\]\: b not alive yet
flyer [6d\]\: now W D9
]
;W[dk]WL[1870.28];B[cj]BL[1986.33]C[Fujiwaka [-\]\: nice fly
kevinwm [3k\]\: k3 k2 h1 g1 n1 q1 l1 e3 alive
Swell [1k\]\: m1 +
Swell [1k\]\: ^^
lior6 [?\]\: n1?
Swell [1k\]\: desQ1
lior6 [?\]\: sente
Elscouta [2k\]\: what does e3 do?
flyer [6d\]\: these 2 exchange W gain quite a lot
Breaker [2k?\]\: 7p vs bbw in the other rom lets watch
]
;W[ms]WL[1789.27];B[ps]BL[1983.34]C[flyer [6d\]\: B should E11 instead of C11
SergeyASh [13k\]\: seems plan b - live and get l5 ?
lior6 [?\]\: G1
lior6 [?\]\: so how b alive
kevinwm [3k\]\: g1 h3 h1 j1 f1 e3 dead
telchar [1d\]\: c'est parti pour une attaque bien virile et poilue ?
]
;W[pm]WL[1755.66]C[flyer [6d\]\: B is not a live, but hard to kill
lior6 [?\]\: you see
]
;B[om]BL[1965.57]C[Uberdude [4d?\]\: tenuki
];W[ol]WL[1753.21]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: ya - can easily either run or make eye with g5
flyer [6d\]\: nice move, W
Uberdude [4d?\]\: e3 ?
kevinwm [3k\]\: How is it that no one has taken h17/j17 yet?!?
]
;B[eq]BL[1895.32];W[dq]WL[1750.49]C[Uberdude [4d?\]\: tada
flyer [6d\]\: B can consider H17 at this moment
Uberdude [4d?\]\: kevin it is small
Uberdude [4d?\]\: unintersting
]
;B[fs]BL[1873.74]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: that seems like at least 10 pts to me.
];W[ds]
WL[1746.79]C[kevinwm [3k\]\: boring, but big
Uberdude [4d?\]\: 10 pts is small
Uberdude [4d?\]\: thwere are more urgent matters
fosil [-\]\: j2 unsettled
fosil [-\]\: for example
kevinwm [3k\]\: L1 to live for sure, or g5 first (better)
KillerMonk [4d\]\: Well h17 is interesting points wise but  black cannot leave the battlefield I think . 
SergeyASh [13k\]\: b decide start up?
kevinwm [3k\]\: j2 will live
KillerMonk [4d\]\: Better to secure his group at the bottom 
Uberdude [4d?\]\: once this calms down h17 /j17 is plasuible
Uberdude [4d?\]\: but both groups there are strong
Uberdude [4d?\]\: s17 may even  be bigger
Elscouta [2k\]\: o7 ends in a big ko
kevinwm [3k\]\: also big yes s17
kevinwm [3k\]\: after that s6/b7
Uberdude [4d?\]\: w has b9
kevinwm [3k\]\: ya - similarly big to b7
kevinwm [3k\]\: actually, makes b7 even bigger for b
kevinwm [3k\]\: I don't like f1
]
;B[hs]BL[1730.01];W[jq]WL[1740.61];B[jr]BL[1725.79];W[ej]WL[1714.01]C[lior6 [?\]\: H4
flyer [6d\]\: H1 is safe but very slow move.
kevinwm [3k\]\: honte
kevinwm [3k\]\: I prefer b g5 to h1
SergeyASh [13k\]\: b two-eyed now - why w not f5 ?
eemhdbmy\: who is usa who is canada
MChow [7k\]\: w is usa
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: zchen is usa
flyer [6d\]\: B C9
DnFBlitz [1k\]\: isn't it about time for H17?
KillerMonk [4d\]\: Michael Chen (zchen) W vs Juyong Koh (bliztsuck) B
flyer [6d\]\: B have to answer here. otherwise, W will C9 and cut
]
;B[ei]BL[1594.6];W[fi]WL[1704.91]C[DnFBlitz [1k\]\: i see
lior6 [?\]\: you know i didnt know there is american 9d
]
;B[dh]BL[1585.97]C[lior6 [?\]\: 9p
lior6 [?\]\: imean
];W[nm]WL[1696.52];B[on]BL[1583.92]
;W[nk]WL[1693.22]C[Uberdude [4d?\]\: there are 9p from asian pro associations living in usa
]
;B[nn]BL[1579.66]C[lior6 [?\]\: no
flyer [6d\]\: now, time to H17
lior6 [?\]\: american
Uberdude [4d?\]\: oh 9d
lior6 [?\]\: yes
]
;W[kk]WL[1665.43]C[Uberdude [4d?\]\: sures quite a few american 9d
lior6 [?\]\: no
lior6 [?\]\: just 1
Uberdude [4d?\]\: lol
lior6 [?\]\: lol
]
;B[lj]BL[1545.84]C[lior6 [?\]\: but 9p
];W[ic]WL[1656.69]C[Tasky [4k\]\: can someone explain l9 ?
lior6 [?\]\: its huge
Uberdude [4d?\]\: oh you mean 9p?
lior6 [?\]\: yes
Uberdude [4d?\]\: then yes michael redmond is only american born 9p
flyer [6d\]\: I9 is a question move, B don't have to answer
]
;B[rc]BL[1515.87]C[lior6 [?\]\: yes
eemhdbmy\: american 9d and canadian 9d are quite weak, relatively speaking
adhitthana [1d\]\: what is a question move?
adhitthana [1d\]\: what does he ask for?
]
;W[mc]WL[1609.3]C[flyer [6d\]\: question move is a move very likely to bad, but unsure.
flyer [6d\]\: to be bad
adhitthana [1d\]\: ah thanx, nice way to say that w didnt read it?
]
;B[mb]BL[1453.48];W[nd]WL[1586];B[oc]BL[1434.55]C[flyer [6d\]\: there is a lot of thing in Go, that you can't make 100% certain.
]
;W[md]WL[1580.63];B[lc]BL[1427.53]C[lior6 [?\]\: like what
];W[ip]WL[1554.63]C[slinky [-\]\: wait who is america?
KillerMonk [4d\]\: USA is Michael Chen (zchen) W vs  Canada Juyong Koh (bliztsuck) B
adhitthana [1d\]\: w
SergeyASh [13k\]\: h3 ?
slinky [-\]\: thanks
flyer [6d\]\: too many things, for an easy example, in the opening, which is better, 44, or 34,
KillerMonk [4d\]\: I copied it because i get the feeling it will be asked quite a bit
adhitthana [1d\]\: what is the award for this tournament?
]
;B[fj]BL[1373.85];W[ek]WL[1549.41];B[fk]BL[1366.86];W[eh]WL[1544.11];B[di]BL[1360.48]
C[moha [2d\]\: nothing is certain unless you minimax to the end
visualGo [4k\]\: a night in Las Vegas
lior6 [?\]\: lee sedol9p play tygame
lior6 [?\]\: ?
moha [2d\]\: sure
]
;W[fl]WL[1482.51]C[lior6 [?\]\: oh i should play to
];B[gi]BL[1348.89]C[moha [2d\]\: afaik most pros play there these days
flyer [6d\]\: it is getting close now. W might lead a little
]
;W[fh]WL[1448.19]C[SergeyASh [13k\]\: if h3 h4 h3 g4 - b without one eye. IMHO
]
;B[gh]BL[1320.55]C[lior6 [?\]\: zchen homeless?
lior6 [?\]\: what in the picture
moha [2d\]\: h3 nothing now, but w j4 prevented b f5
Lakotnik [4k\]\: hehe
]
;W[gl]WL[1375.03];B[hk]BL[1298.18]C[MChow [7k\]\: w leading
];W[ff]WL[1359.82]C[SergeyASh [13k\]\: w cut f3 from d10 . 
sameasyou [2d\]\: SE whispered it to u?
flyer [6d\]\: B G13, then L10
]
;B[gg]BL[1252.44];W[fg]WL[1345.1];B[hl]BL[1246.35]C[lior6 [?\]\: i think w lead by 0.5
sameasyou [2d\]\: the game is close...open to any result
]
;W[gp]WL[1322.67]C[flyer [6d\]\: H8 might be overplay
sameasyou [2d\]\: g4 beautiful
lior6 [?\]\: you doubt in my reading
Analysis [2d\]\: juyong koh!!!!
flyer [6d\]\: G4 is senti, always
]
;B[hq]BL[1187.72]C[joueur [1d\]\: thers the pblm of B Q14
];W[gf]WL[1307.36];B[hm]
BL[1180.77]C[joueur [1d\]\: maybe at once ?
];W[dm]WL[1284.4]C[lior6 [?\]\: C9
lior6 [?\]\: then b16
sameasyou [2d\]\: k11 or q14
lior6 [?\]\: and b+1.5
KillerMonk [4d\]\: If b plays q14, he will no longer be able to capture at s15
flyer [6d\]\: G4, is playing safely, might think leading
flyer [6d\]\: G14
]
;B[ig]BL[1069.1];W[ii]WL[1267.06]C[nelad10k\: la belle de K10
];B[gk]BL[1004.68]
;W[hf]WL[1257.03]C[Breaker [2k?\]\: 7p game is runing..
];B[ih]BL[1000.32];W[ki]
WL[1251.08]C[Caim [11k\]\: this one is better \:)
mgoetze [1d\]\: running to its conclusion very quickly, yes
]
;B[fn]BL[955.115]C[adhitthana [1d\]\: 7p got crushed
lior6 [?\]\: 7p???
];W[dl]
WL[1213.83];B[bm]BL[952.799]C[joueur [1d\]\: J16 , preparing Q 13 semmes severe 
]
;W[gm]WL[1193.3]C[joueur [1d\]\: Q14
henhen [7k\]\: w ahead?
flyer [6d\]\: W is ahead on the board
jSd [8k\]\: w+20
]
;B[kg]BL[824.152]C[KillerMonk [4d\]\: w+20?, you must count again 
flyer [6d\]\: G7,..... might be not right
Breaker [2k?\]\: 7PRO Vs 9d is runing so .. out of that rom
]
;W[of]WL[1104.65];B[li]BL[791.953]C[Analysis [2d\]\: well, bbw lost to tigergong, who down the line is weaker then zchen
Analysis [2d\]\: also, the time limits on this game make for better go
Analysis [2d\]\: preparing cut at g6?
]
;W[ik]WL[934.564]C[thewho [3k?\]\: M11 will reduce w's right side
];B[kj]BL[765.776]
;W[jj]WL[923.929]C[KillerMonk [4d\]\: s6 is starting to look big for black 
];B[gn]
BL[732.998];W[hn]WL[919.559]C[Swell [1k\]\: 
Swell [1k\]\: o.o `?
]
;B[eo]BL[693.996]C[fairgo1 [1k\]\: how'd you do that? O.o
MChow [7k\]\: ..... 
]
;W[im]WL[898.064]C[Swell [1k\]\: I dunno o.o
];B[il]BL[690.901]C[joueur [1d\]\: lol
]
;W[jl]WL[889.601]C[Swell [1k\]\: ;) I copied it =)
Analysis [2d\]\: dead?
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: i was going to ask
fairgo1 [1k\]\: from where?
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: m3 didn't just die right?
Fujiwaka [-\]\: dead
]
;B[kh]BL[665.462]C[Swell [1k\]\: from my info
Analysis [2d\]\: guess not
Swell [1k\]\: ^^
tuerda [1k\]\: my money is on  w here
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: why didn't white play f5 at any point
flyer [6d\]\: ???
fairgo1 [1k\]\: wait white k6 and it lives right?
tuerda [1k\]\: yes, k6 immediate life
]
;W[ji]WL[835.029]C[fairgo1 [1k\]\: but then
Caim [11k\]\: how can m3 live?
MChow [7k\]\: k6 
tuerda [1k\]\: m3 can live with k6 immediately caim
Analysis [2d\]\: seems like j6 now
jSd [8k\]\: h10 h11 
thewho [3k?\]\: d6
tuerda [1k\]\: but f5 seems to do the trick also
sedgwick [3d\]\: b j6 w k6
SergeyASh [13k\]\: k6 ?
mcw85 [7k\]\: f5 g5 f4 e4 
]
;B[in]BL[598.339]C[Joshua96 [5k\]\: pssst swell ^^
fairgo1 [1k\]\: oh i see now
]
;W[hj]WL[827.878]C[fairgo1 [1k\]\: >.>
];B[gj]BL[595.53];W[jn]WL[821.39];B[jm]BL[589.096]
C[fairgo1 [1k\]\: no ko i think
tuerda [1k\]\: J5
];W[io]WL[812.819]C[tuerda [1k\]\: w can still live clean
]
;B[im]BL[579.24]C[flyer [6d\]\: J9. should take F6 stone first
fairgo1 [1k\]\: wow nice \:D
KillerMonk [4d\]\: white takes a loss here
]
;W[hi]WL[808.091]C[MChow [7k\]\: alive!
tuerda [1k\]\: he has H11 next
tuerda [1k\]\: yes
tuerda [1k\]\: alive
]
;B[rn]BL[566.637];W[rm]WL[794.258];B[jb]BL[555.069]C[tuerda [1k\]\: yes, w a minor hit, but this is to be expected when under attack
]
;W[ib]WL[785.398]C[KillerMonk [4d\]\: black  will win now 
KillerMonk [4d\]\: he was first to take the big yose
]
;B[bn]BL[531.837];W[bo]WL[783.441];B[ao]BL[530.219];W[bp]WL[767.731]C[jSd [8k\]\: w+20.5
tuerda [1k\]\: stop quoting se
]
;B[re]BL[501.758]C[tuerda [1k\]\: se says bogus nonsense
];W[qe]WL[761.296];B[qd]
BL[500.124];W[rf]WL[757.727];B[sd]BL[499.375];W[ck]WL[750.687];B[bk]BL[496.579]
;W[cm]WL[748.686]C[jSd [8k\]\: w+16.5
];B[bl]BL[494.75];W[lh]WL[736.492]C[ganon4 [15k\]\: white will not win
SergeyASh [13k\]\: ups!
tuerda [1k\]\: will be a close game
]
;B[mh]BL[469.059]C[tuerda [1k\]\: my money is still on w
MChow [7k\]\: look at your SE
]
;W[lg]WL[694.64];B[lf]BL[453.711]C[SergeyASh [13k\]\: o12 ?
tuerda [1k\]\: se algorithm\: put a lot of black and white dots everywhere and then predict a score using the random number generator
jSd [8k\]\: w+12.5
]
;W[mg]WL[656.939];B[mf]BL[450.385];W[ng]WL[652.774];B[ke]BL[449.493]C[joueur [1d\]\: B G16  (before  J16, as said before) 
]
;W[if]WL[638.819]C[jSd [8k\]\: p15
joueur [1d\]\: so B captures either F 12  or N 16 
jSd [8k\]\: and resign
]
;B[kf]BL[401.498]C[Analysis [2d\]\: k14
KillerMonk [4d\]\: j14 is sente 
Analysis [2d\]\: why l14 or k14?
Analysis [2d\]\: over*
ketchup [2k\]\: doesnt black have to play k14 anyways?
ketchup [2k\]\: err l14*
KillerMonk [4d\]\: but black seems ahead to me by + &.5
Analysis [2d\]\: i guess so
KillerMonk [4d\]\: 7.5 sorry
]
;W[oe]WL[556.871]C[Javaness [2d\]\: white in gote, so sad for him
kiddai [6k\]\: yes
]
;B[ni]BL[376.262];W[oi]WL[550.751]C[Analysis [2d\]\: se still loves w
];B[nj]BL[367.392]
;W[oj]WL[547.62]C[tuerda [1k\]\: we all love w
jSd [8k\]\: b60
sedgwick [3d\]\: What does se have to do with anything?
]
;B[sf]BL[359.032]C[tuerda [1k\]\: look at him
tuerda [1k\]\: lying on the floor
tuerda [1k\]\: looking like he is on drugs
Analysis [2d\]\: SE is always right
tuerda [1k\]\: he is so cute
sedgwick [3d\]\: hmmmm
tuerda [1k\]\: lol
Analysis [2d\]\: i don't count in my games, i just use SE
jSd [8k\]\: b 60
Onmyoji [2d\]\: se better than 2d count
Yaruki [10k\]\: that hallway is small
jSd [8k\]\: w 70
tuerda [1k\]\: but you can't use se in your own games
jSd [8k\]\: w+7.5
ketchup [2k\]\: SE shouldnt be available for people playing
tuerda [1k\]\: it isn't
Analysis [2d\]\: i have a laptop right beside me that i log into a guest
Yaruki [10k\]\: lol
ketchup [2k\]\: at least im sure it isnt
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: w deciding whether to start ko?
DrakeBell [5d\]\: se better than a 9p count!!
]
;W[sg]WL[485.843]C[ketchup [2k\]\: analysis cheats? \:(
tuerda [1k\]\: you must be kidding me aphelion
Dmajor7106 [3k\]\: its not cheating
Analysis [2d\]\: yeah, i use aimbot and maphack too
Dmajor7106 [3k\]\: \:)
]
;B[se]BL[346.965]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]\: tuerda why
ketchup [2k\]\: what a shame~
tuerda [1k\]\: man
]
;W[sl]WL[465.602]C[Javaness [2d\]\: hane on the first line time
Analysis [2d\]\: i actually do very little analysis
tuerda [1k\]\: that's just . . . 
DrakeBell [5d\]\: se can kill 2 eye shape
tuerda [1k\]\: filthy
Javaness [2d\]\: J19 !
Leothelion [4k\]\: you don't need a laptop, whit the kgs program you can open 2 accounts ! \:D
tuerda [1k\]\: you need to open one using java client though
tuerda [1k\]\: and that does not allow se
thewho [3k?\]\: s13
]
;B[ee]BL[290.027]C[Thanshin [4k?\]\: Games should stop after 150 moves and be decided by SE.
]
;W[fe]WL[461.166]C[MChow [7k\]\: cgoban allows SE
KillerMonk [4d\]\: j19 then b16
Analysis [2d\]\: yeah Thanshin has a good idea
]
;B[bd]BL[272.549]C[Analysis [2d\]\: CGoban should be called JavaGoban
];W[ca]WL[457.872]
;B[be]BL[271.82];W[jc]WL[451.689]C[kensei [2k\]\: t 8 is cool 
];B[kb]BL[262.694]
C[Dmajor7106 [3k\]\: the C stands for Computer, I thought, not C, the language.
]
;W[qn]WL[445.606]C[tuerda [1k\]\: this would be ridiculous thanshin
];B[ro]BL[251.201]
C[tuerda [1k\]\: in order to be sure a group was dead
];W[nh]WL[436.252]C[tuerda [1k\]\: you would have to remove it from the board
]
;B[rg]BL[240.28]C[tuerda [1k\]\: and even then there would be doubt
];W[sh]WL[431.556]
;B[pe]BL[234.25]C[ketchup [2k\]\: l1
];W[pf]WL[428.135]C[Analysis [2d\]\: so many threats now for b
Javaness [2d\]\: hehe
]
;B[ia]BL[217.397];W[ha]WL[425.079];B[ja]BL[215.639];W[je]WL[419.448]C[Leothelion [4k\]\: but where is the ko ?
]
;B[mm]BL[194.589];W[mi]WL[414.778]C[fairgo1 [1k\]\: is this aga rules?
jSd [8k\]\: here
ronm [2d?\]\: the question is not where is the ko, but where will the ko be
tuerda [1k\]\: in my pants, wanna see it?
MChow [7k\]\: yes
ketchup [2k\]\: feel like white yose is better..
]
;B[mj]BL[175.842];W[nl]WL[409.539]C[ketchup [2k\]\: e7
];B[go]BL[159.541]C[flyer [6d\]\: B win
]
;W[cc]WL[398.987];B[hp]BL[156.617];W[jp]WL[396.37]C[ronm [2d?\]\: seems that way
Onmyoji [2d\]\: w win
]
;B[do]BL[139.617]C[ronm [2d?\]\: b+3-4 i think?
];W[co]WL[388.35];B[em]BL[136.137]
;W[el]WL[382.772]C[kensei [2k\]\: stop counting and just use score estimator 
Leothelion [4k\]\: count
flyer [6d\]\: J9 is the losing move
DrakeBell [5d\]\: n10 was a mistake should have o8 
rayah [5k\]\: The l6 group makes me think black wins
]
;B[jd]BL[105.076];W[id]WL[379.029];B[kd]BL[104.311];W[ep]WL[372.533];B[fp]BL[101.345]
;W[ap]WL[364.468];B[an]BL[98.477]C[jSd [8k\]\: omggggggggggg
jSd [8k\]\: w+0.5
Onmyoji [2d\]\: w+1.5
knoxville\: L1
jSd [8k\]\: nop
tuerda [1k\]\: tight game
knoxville\: A16
]
;W[ad]WL[337.405]C[jSd [8k\]\: w will won by 0.5
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: USA!
];B[ae]
BL[94.741]C[tuerda [1k\]\: I am not confident enough in my counting to be completely sure
]
;W[ac]WL[330.951];B[jf]BL[93.763];W[jh]WL[326.403];B[jg]BL[91.761];W[ie]WL[324.018]
C[Aphelion02 [9k\]\: SE has B +0.5
jSd [8k\]\: ko
jSd [8k\]\: there is a ko
];B[sn]
BL[72.912]C[jSd [8k\]\: for game
Renju [-\]\: se cant count AGA
ketchup [2k\]\: SE cannot be trusted with AGA ruleset
]
;W[sm]WL[316.426]C[Onmyoji [2d\]\: why not
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: whaaaa
tuerda [1k\]\: se cannot be trusted period
ronm [2d?\]\: it just fails
knoxville\: D13
nay4ok [1d?\]\: b for blanc
skeptical [2d\]\: looks like b by 0.5
Leothelion [4k\]\: m1 ?
nay4ok [1d?\]\: you mean blanc a gagne?
ketchup [2k\]\: seems like black must add stones at q5 and m5?
]
;B[eg]BL[16.931]C[jSd [8k\]\: l1
Firzen [3d\]\: n11 ko seems decisive
];W[ef]WL[313.658]
;B[dg]BL[16.004]C[jSd [8k\]\: l1
ketchup [2k\]\: oh no just o5..
jSd [8k\]\: w
knoxville\: L1
jSd [8k\]\: and won
]
;W[ks]WL[306.041];B[js]BL[14.024]C[jSd [8k\]\: gg
];W[ls]WL[303.42]C[jSd [8k\]\: w +1.5
jSd [8k\]\: if b take ko
]
;B[gs]BL[7.224];W[es]WL[300.595]C[jSd [8k\]\: w +0.5
];B[mh]BL[4.339]C[Timshel [1d\]\: u kno se doesnt work rite?
Firzen [3d\]\: not true JSD
]
;W[fm]WL[287.966];B[en]BL[2.132];W[mi]WL[285.863];B[hb]BL[0.389]C[DnFBlitz [1k\]\: AGA rules -> SE in broken mode \:(
]
;W[ga]WL[283.064];OB[10]B[mh]BL[60];W[od]WL[276.791]C[Aphelion02 [9k\]\: b has too many threats?
Javaness [2d\]\: black win
henhen [7k\]\: close
tuerda [1k\]\: b many threats
ronm [2d?\]\: b win comfortably
rayah [5k\]\: SE is broken in all modes
]
;OB[10]B[mi]BL[60];W[nf]WL[274.709]C[Handoffate [8k\]\: SE?
];OB[10]B[me]BL[60]
;W[ld]WL[272.213]C[ronm [2d?\]\: score estimator
];OB[10]B[mn]BL[60]C[DnFBlitz [1k\]\: there is a normal mode for SE, where it's only somewhat broken
rayah [5k\]\: but still broken
DnFBlitz [1k\]\: and there is a broken mode
rndui [2k\]\: s12
plusguy [-\]\: btw
tuerda [1k\]\: b win
henhen [7k\]\: b wins
ronm [2d?\]\: by japanese counting, at the end of the game it is quite accurate, but by other rulesets it always is bad
plusguy [-\]\: AGA Rules?
henhen [7k\]\: b wins +7
]
;W[pk]WL[228.682]C[ronm [2d?\]\: (also, accurate assuming no seki)
];OB[10]B[le]
BL[60];W[ne]WL[226.575];OB[10]B[ml]BL[60];W[mk]WL[224.619]C[fairgo1 [1k\]\: juyong koh won =/
]
;OB[10]B[hg]BL[60]C[henhen [7k\]\: lol?
];W[dn]WL[221.724]C[ronm [2d?\]\: yes, go canada!
]
;OB[10]B[hh]BL[60]C[TheTuss [6k\]\: what
];W[lr]WL[219.318]C[KillerMonk [4d\]\: Go Canada!
rndui [2k\]\: yo s12 works
]
;OB[10]B[]BL[60]C[Mandjames [5k\]\: what is the rules AGA ?
];W[]WL[219.317]TB[na]
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[dr][as][bs][cs][ql][ec]C[henhen [7k\]\: canadian rules?
Renju [-\]\: no, it doesnt
ketchup [2k\]\: aga rule set..
plusguy [-\]\: US vs Canada  but all the players are chinese
henhen [7k\]\: lol bottom
plusguy [-\]\: lol
kiddai [6k\]\: good game \:)
henhen [7k\]\: lol 3.5
Onmyoji [2d\]\: b+3.5
zchen [8d\]\: thanks
Bliztsuck [9d\]\: thanks michael
rayah [5k\]\: Canada doesn't have rules... right?
gaion [1d?\]\: whoohoo
ronm [2d?\]\: great game guys, congrats juyong \:)
adhitthana [1d\]\: nice
Caim [11k\]\: \:(
tigergong [?\]\: good game bliztsuck
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: nooooooo
ronm [2d?\]\: Canada takes the lead again!
Caim [11k\]\: who plays for usa next?
KillerMonk [4d\]\: gg blitzsuck
Aphelion02 [9k\]\: great job michael
oblivion [4d\]\: mr koh
Onmyoji [2d\]\: in real war usa would win
Javaness [2d\]\: O Canada
KillerMonk [4d\]\: gg both 
Bliztsuck [9d\]\: thank u
WoolyMaCha [5k\]\:         YES, Canada wins,  gg  Bliztsuck.
nay4ok [1d?\]\: SE lieing even now
fairgo1 [1k\]\: lol
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